Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!snorkelwacker!mit-eddie!MAC.DARTMOUTH.EDU!Julian.West@MAC.DARTMOUTH.EDU From: Julian.West@MAC.DARTMOUTH.EDU Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Joyce Message-ID: <1202024@mac.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 5 Mar 90 22:44:17 GMT Sender: daemon@eddie.mit.edu (Mr Background) Organization: Love-Hounds Anonymous Lines: 16 Approved: nessus@eddie.mit.edu Kenneth G Descoteaux writes: and at first with the charm around him, mmh, yes' Does this come from Joyce or is this a reference to a line (that I read somewhere) that goes like 'and with a charm round him thrice ...' (Shakespeare ? Spencer?) Some sort of love charm? ------------- It isn't from Joyce. The Joycean line is "and first I put my arms around him". As to whether it has anything to do with your other quotation, who knows? You can look up the original text on the last page or two of _Ulysses_. Julian