Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: mtb@cbnews.ATT.COM (mtb) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Music Summary: Additional info on Satan in Ezekiel 28:11-19 Message-ID: Date: 4 Mar 90 01:54:39 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 31 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article mike@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Michael I. Bushnell) writes: >Ack! The OT has about 3 references to Satan total...Genesis, Job, and >in, I think Isaiah (or another of the prophets) about "Lucifer". > I haven't got a lot of information on Satanology, but I'm currently taking a class on "Basic Doctrine" and there seems to be at least one other O.T. reference to Satan. In Ezekiel 28:11-19, Ezekiel appears to be describing in detail Satan's pre-rebellion existence, and his rebellion along with its causes and its consequences. Since verses 1-10 refer to a human ruler of Tyre, it seems that the King of Tyre referred to in verses 11-19 is someone different. Cross-referencing this passage with Dan. 10:12,13, it seems that there was a prevalent O.T. belief that certain angels aligned themselves as "spiritual" leaders of certain cities. My understanding is that the King of Tyre referred to in verses 11-19 is Satan. I could not find any mention of music in this passage. Mark Brower ....!att!cblpn!mtb (mtb@cblpn.att.com) [Your overall point is probably right. The OT assumes a world with angelic beings who involve themselves in various ways in our history. Whether one can identify someone as vaguely described as the Ezek. passage with Satan in particular seems to me questionable. The commentaries I looked at think that Ezek. 28:11ff is referring to the king of Tyre as a personification of the power of the city. The angelic overtones could be an ironic reference to the pretensions of the king to divinity, as mentioned early in Chap 28. --clh]