Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: gilham@csl.sri.com (Fred Gilham) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Wine... Message-ID: Date: 6 Mar 90 08:38:41 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Computer Science Lab, SRI International, Menlo Park, CA. Lines: 18 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu Out of curiosity I looked up, in Strong's concoordance, the word used for wine in Psalm 104.15. I think this is the quotation being referred to, though I am not sure. Anyway, it is the word for effervescent wine, which is definitely fermented. Interestingly enough, the quotation that followed this one in Strong's used the word for new (or unfermented) wine. Thus it is possible that someone could have accidently read the wrong Hebrew word-number and gotten the wrong idea here. Personally I think the definitive ``proof-text'' regarding this issue is Colossians 2.21-23, suitably qualified by Paul's admonitions elsewhere about not causing one's brother to stumble. -- Fred Gilham gilham@csl.sri.com "The culture of any period is a mixture of that which docilely caters to passing whims and fancies and that which transcends these things -- and may also pass judgement on them." -- Stanislaw Lem