Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!decwrl!shlump.nac.dec.com!bolton!plouff From: plouff@kali.enet.dec.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Advertizing Misconceptions Message-ID: <9154@shlump.nac.dec.com> Date: 12 Mar 90 20:28:44 GMT Sender: newsdaemon@shlump.nac.dec.com Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 50 In article <132837@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>, cmcmanis@stpeter.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) writes... >In article <13635@baldrick.udel.EDU> (Marc Barrett) writes: >[lots of stuff about advertising expense and various manufacturers' > pricing policies] Without getting drawn into the debate, I'd like to make three comments: Zenith was (until they sold the divison) quite successful in some parts of the personal computer market against IBM. Did they spend proportionally as much of revenues on advertising as IBM? Probably not. But, (and a big caveat) they really went after some niche markets such as the U.S. government where advertising wasn't very important. So advertising has to be considered as just one component of sales and marketing. As a rule of thumb, electronic equipment sells for about five times the cost of its raw components. One common misconception in this newsgroup is that the multiple should be a lot lower. But time and again this little rule is right on the money. Some exceptions... consumer electronics such as television sets sell for up to 10x parts cost. DRAMs are such a commodity that manufacturers have a hard time charging the standard markup. Thus, populated RAM cards often have a lower multiple, or manufacturers sell cards without memory to preserve their margins. Finished modules such as power supplies and disk drives are also not marked up as much by manufacturers. The high cost of Mac computers puzzled me until I read an article in _Electronic Business_. Macs are priced as much like software as they are priced like other hardware. This has been true ever since the original model, according to a manufacturing engineering analysis I saw. Think about the design philosophy of the Macintosh family -- tightly coded firmware does many things other machines do in hardware, and this makes sense. All the above is no great store of wisdom -- it's all stolen from business-oriented electronics magazines over the last couple of years. IMO, the real basis for business decisions is more complicated than just what Marc, Chuck or myself has mentioned. We now return you to your regularly scheduled opinions... ;-) Wes -- Wes Plouff, Digital Equipment Corp, Maynard, Mass. plouff%kali.enet.dec@decwrl.dec.com "Who came out with that term, 'MULTIMEDIA', btw??? I prefer amiga's old slang: DEMO." -Viet Ho in comp.sys.amiga