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From: pha@CAEN.ENGIN.UMICH.EDU (Paul H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Help with anonymous FTP
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Date: 9 Mar 90 18:04:21 GMT
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	From: marmen%bcara128%bnrgate.uucp@uunet.uu.net
	To: apollo@umix.cc.umich.edu
	
	In article <21036@bcsaic.UUCP>, vince@bcsaic.UUCP (Vince Skahan) writes:
	> You folks sure seem to be making a lot of headaches for yourselves
	> getting a product that will never wrk into production.
	> 
	> Doesn't the SR10.x documentation and maybe help files rather clearly
	> state that anonymous FTP is not supported undmr Domain/OS ???
	 
	  Under sr10.1, man ftpd documents how anonymous ftp works. There is no
	  disclaimer that it is not supported/implemented. However, the sr10.2 
	  man page has a disclaimer in it.
	> 
	> Shouldn't a 2-minute help line call to HP/Apollo get the answer for you
	> once and for all ???
	 
	  I also had a call into the hotline. When I received a call back, I knew 
	  more about FTP than the Apollo rep. THIS SCARES ME!
	 
	  BTW, our HP account rep also 'accidentally' discovered that anonymous 
	  ftp did not work. This raised a few eyebrows over at HP as well.
	 
	  This is not the first time that we have tripped over undocumented bugs.
	  It's just very frustrating to have a machine which is supposedly JLRU,
	  not support tools which are commonly available on other platforms and 
	  also has documentation which is misleading.
	 
	  Enough flaming for now. It's time I slid back under the murky waters from
	  whence I came ;-)
	 
	cheers
	rob...
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The lack of anonymous ftp directly contributes to a slower flow of freely
available software available via anonymous ftp.  Many times, I've wished
I didn't need to set up a sun or dec to provide this basic service.  In
my opinion, Apollo shot themselves in the foot not providing basic anonymous
ftp ability, with appropriate caveats regarding the lack of chroot().

Paul Anderson
CAEN Systems Programmer