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From: farrier@Apple.COM (Cary Farrier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Matt, please listen! (Was Re: contacts in Norman, OK)
Message-ID: <39415@apple.Apple.COM>
Date: 12 Mar 90 16:23:15 GMT
References: <1785@crash.cts.com> <1990Mar10.051855.7012@spectre.ccsf.caltech.edu>
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA
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In article <1990Mar10.051855.7012@spectre.ccsf.caltech.edu> toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
>In article <1785@crash.cts.com> tsouth@pro-pac.cts.com (System Administrator) writes:
>>In-Reply-To: message from toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu
>
>>I empathize with your furvor.  My suggestion, though, is to stop sending
>>lengthy replies to DTS as it does no good.  Instead, you should inquire as
>>to the best way to make your concerns heard by upper management if you
>>really want to get something done.  I have posted numerous letters to them
>>in the past, and eventually you will find that flaming your best friends
>>and/or associates who BASICALLY FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT YOU DO EVEN IF THEY
>>CAN'T LEGALLY ADMIT IT will do nothing more than make them feel
>>unappreciated.
>
>Well if they had TOLD ME THAT instead of taking it personally and flaming me
>back this wouldn't have gotten as far as it has!
>
>I have gotten the impression from their posts that they do not understand what
>we are telling them and since they are DTS they OF ALL PEOPLE should know!!
>
>Apple is supposed to encourage freedom of expression among its employees and
>if they can get canned for publicly expressing personal dissatisfaction with
>Apple's policies then it speaks very badly of Apple as a company. I don't
>think that is really the case but it often seems like it.
>
>Matt, Dave, how about it? Is Apple gagging you guys about company policy but
>otherwise letting you do wonderful work? I can understand about unannounced
>products but telling the outside world that the II has a real future I would
>think should be encouraged instead of a non-disclosure agreement!
>
>The rations of abuse we heap on you guys is due completely to the fact that
>in our attempts to alert Apple to the situation out here we have found you
>folks as an easy access point, which is really inappropriate for our particular
>concerns... But please don't take it personally, give us an address of someone
>who will be able to do something about it instead.
>
>Todd Whitesel
>toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu


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