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From: kca@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (k.c.archie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Development Environments on 2GS.
Keywords: pascal C
Message-ID: <14399@cbnewsc.ATT.COM>
Date: 14 Mar 90 18:53:55 GMT
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Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
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I am interested in comments on different development environments
on the Apple 2GS. I am interested in Orca C vs. TML pascal 2.
I have a pretty good Forth system but it has been so long
since I last used Forth that I want to check out these languages.
I am not interested in a debate or flame war over which language is better.
What I want to know is which system makes it easier to generate 2GS
applications. Here are some criteria, please add others.
Support for Toolbox access:
	write my own assembler functions, is there a library of routines.
Resource editing
	I am not really sure what this is but it appears to be
	a useful tool for generating desktop applications.
Examples Code
	Are there templates of programs to open windows, do graphics, etc.
Desk Accessories
	Are there examples or templates to help write these?
Debugging Aids
	Are there any and what sort?
Compiler Speed
	Will I be able to eat lunch while compiling
Code Speed
	Can I write games in it?
	Will the users of my applications fall asleep while using them?
Building Tools
	Something like make.
Editors
	What are they like?
Standards
	Do they compile the standard language?
Documentation
	Is it any good.

The goal here is to decide which system is easier to use. I am
conversant in both languages and am completely aware of
the differences, strengths and weakness of both. I don't want arguments like
"C is better because it has ++" or "Pascal is better because it has sets".
I want to know about the Environment, not the language.

I appreciate any and all help.
**kent
Kent Archie kca@cbnewsc.att.com