Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!njin!princeton!udel!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!usc!apple!amdahl!amdcad!pepsi!phil From: phil@pepsi.amd.com (Phil Ngai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: RE programs crashing in Desqview Message-ID: <29391@amdcad.AMD.COM> Date: 6 Mar 90 19:12:39 GMT References: <48e591a9.20b6d@apollo.HP.COM> <29312@amdcad.AMD.COM> <4170@hub.UUCP> <7026@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM> Sender: news@amdcad.AMD.COM Reply-To: phil@pepsi.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) Distribution: usa Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Sunnyvale CA Lines: 25 In article <7026@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM> keithe@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM (Keith Ericson) writes: |In article <29312@amdcad.AMD.COM> phil@pepsi.amd.com (Phil Ngai) writes: | |> In principle a 386 PC should be able to run DOS jobs in a |> virtual 8086 and any crashes should not affect the other jobs. |> In practice I do not know if DV does this. | |I dunno' about Desqview, but that's eggactly how VM/386 works. If That is what I would expect VM/386 to do. Someone replied that DV/386 does too. I do not believe this for the following reasons. First, DV/386 is simply DV/286 packaged with QEMM-386. It's the same DV file that you run although it may be possible that it executes different code. Second, I have had plenty of crashes in DV/386 and if it were really a virtual 8086 machine I would expect much fewer. In summary, I believe that if you use DV/386, the only part which runs in protected mode is QEMM-386. And I'm not even sure about that. Someone told me that QEMM can do what it needs (to the MMU?) in real mode. But I don't really believe this either. -- Phil Ngai, phil@amd.com {uunet,decwrl,ucbvax}!amdcad!phil A PC without DESQview is like Unix without ^Z.