Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!bradley.grigor From: bradley.grigor@canremote.uucp (BRADLEY GRIGOR) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: open this package and you Message-ID: <90030820223447@masnet.uucp> Date: 19 Feb 90 03:19:00 GMT Organization: Canada Remote Systems Limited, Mississauga, ON, Canada Lines: 40 Subj: open this package and you're stuck with it nelson_p@apollo.HP.COM (Peter Nelson) writes nM> Part of the problem is that the manufacturers are abusing the nM> "you open it, you can't return it" clause on their packaging. nM> The implicit licensing agreement is supposed to protect them nM> from unauthorized copying but it provides them with an excuse nM> to ship expensive junky products knowing that they can't be nM> returned. If I spend $350 on a TV and I'm not satisfied I can ^^^^^^^^ nM> return it; if I spend $350 on a C++ compiler I'm stuck with it nM> no matter how dissatisfying it is. This has to change. Software nM> is an increasingly big business and consumers of software deserve nM> the same rights and protections that they get for other products. Well, not entirely true! I bought the Microsoft FORTRAN compiler to move some software from VAX/VMS to MS-DOS -- something the MS advertising said their FORTRAN could handle, since it recognized the VAX/VMS extensions. True, it DID recognize the extensions, but it was unable to handle a decent sized symbol table -- something one takes for granted under VAX/VMS. After following Microsoft's action plan (in which they unsuccessfully tried to get my program to compile), Microsoft finally authorized the dealer to REFUND my money. Although Microsoft started by saying it was against their policy to take software back and give refunds, it is to their credit that they escalated the problem to head office, proposed an action plan and then followed through on it. I think they may have also stopped promoting the VAX/VMS capability of their compiler at the same time! After all, there's more to it than simply parsing the same language syntax! bradley.grigor@canremote.uucp : ALEX is coming to Toronto in April. Newmarket, Ontario, Canada : TelePoker will be there - will YOU? --- ~ DeLuxe 1.11a20 #4613 Don't worry: the answer's at the back of the book.