Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!bionet!ames!pacbell!att!cbnewsj!jwi From: jwi@cbnewsj.ATT.COM (Jim Winer @ AT&T, Middletown, NJ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Brain-dead 286 - summary Summary: Hardware for hardware's sake Message-ID: <4120@cbnewsj.ATT.COM> Date: 9 Mar 90 14:48:13 GMT References: <8681@rosevax.Rosemount.COM> <29405@amdcad.AMD.COM> <1990Mar8.182345.11823@seri.gov> Distribution: usa Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 47 > Marshall L. Buhl writes: > Once again we find ourselves on differing sides of an issue. The 286 > is costing users and developers a fortune. Trying to shoehorn modern > applications into a 16-bit address space is very expensive. This drives > up software costs for users. Developers have to develop for two platforms. > One for people who have to get work done and one for people who don't > value their time. Developers don't have to do anything. But it seems to make sense to build programs for the 20 million or so existing machines -- frankly, there aren't enough 386 machines arond to make it a worthwhile market at this time. > I run Windows on a 386/25. It's a DOG! I was a beta tester for WinWord. > I own it, but don't use it. My time is just too valuable to have to wait > for graphics screen refreshes all the time. I've gone back to using PC > Word, because I don't have a PC powerful enough to run WinWord. I just > can't imagine how miserable this fantastic product would be on a 286. I don't understand why you call it a fantastic product when you won't use it because "it's a DOG!" I have done direct comparisons with AMI and WordPerfect and both of them are better products that run just fine on a fast 286. Your problem isn't hardware, it's poor choice of software. > Phil. Please throw that old junker on the trash heap. People like you > are holding the rest of us back. At least send it home with someone > as I do with my old junkers. Get it off you desk. There is no place > in corporate America for the 286. Since most of what corporate America does (word processing, spread sheet, data base, etc.) runs just fine on a 286 with a big enough and fast enough disk, it seems rather dumb to make this statement. > Marshall L. Buhl, Jr. EMAIL: marshall@wind55.seri.gov > Solar Energy Research Institute Solar - safe energy for a healthy future Perhaps if we didn't waste so many things by insisting that they are obsolete when they are not, we wouldn't have as much need for solar energy -- but then that's another area where we can all get gung-ho for hardware for hardware's sake. Jim Winer -- jwi@mtfme.att.com -- Opinions not represent employer. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ...I've had some womderful daydreams about how the FAA controllers would react to suddenly discovering a dragon on short final into O'Hare on a busy night in IFR conditions... -- J.C. Morris, The MITRE Corp., McLean, VA