Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer:349 comp.sys.ibm.pc:46195 Path: utzoo!attcan!lsuc!maccs!cs4g6ag From: cs4g6ag@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Stephen M. Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Caches and Extended Memory Message-ID: <25F9EA26.21884@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> Date: 11 Mar 90 06:03:17 GMT References: <9003091838.AA21834@decwrl.dec.com> Reply-To: cs4g6ag@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Stephen M. Dunn) Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario Lines: 40 In article <9003091838.AA21834@decwrl.dec.com> stoppani@slough.enet.dec.com (Pete Stoppani) writes: $My understanding is that memory above 1Meg (except for the first $64k above 1Meg) is accessible only when a 268/386/486 is in protected mode. $How does a hard disk cache driver use extended memory on a system running $MS-DOS? Does it switch to protected mode? Do the machines run in $protected mode all the time? Neither seems right...What am I missing? The former is correct. Programs written for real mode operation (i.e. 8086 programs) will not run in protected mode for several reasons (the big one being that segment registers are used completely differently in protected mode). What happens when your disk cache (or ramdrive) needs to access extended memory is as follows: - it prepares to switch into protected mode and then does the switch - it copies the data to/from the appropriate memory locations and then, since the 286 has no way to quitely go back into real mode, the program has to: - get the keyboard controller to reset the CPU - restore the status from earlier The data has now been transferred to/from extended memory, and the program can continue to run as usual. Note that in the process of resetting the processor (which takes times on the order of 100 microseconds, I believe), interrupts can be missed, which is why you should never use a disk cache in extended memory while using a serial port at high speed (since to achieve reliable high-speed transmission you need to use interrupts, and you will miss some). Disk caches in conventional and expanded memory, as well as those implemented in hardware on the controller board, are fine. -- Stephen M. Dunn cs4g6ag@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca = "\nI'm only an undergraduate!!!\n"; **************************************************************************** "So sorry, I never meant to break your heart ... but you broke mine."