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From: oster@well.sf.ca.us (David Phillip Oster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: mac emulation
Message-ID: <16555@well.sf.ca.us>
Date: 7 Mar 90 14:49:12 GMT
References: <14122@cbnewsc.ATT.COM> <39182@apple.Apple.COM> <1990Mar6.071906.4235@Neon.Stanford.EDU>
Reply-To: oster@well.UUCP (David Phillip Oster)
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_>In article <14122@cbnewsc.ATT.COM>, daryl@cbnewsc.ATT.COM
_>(daryl.l.monge) writes:
_> 
_> The current list for a 3/80 4MB 17" mono machine (diskless) is 6K.  Do
_> you still think a IIci is all that much cheaper?  A sparcstation I, 8MB
_> 17" mono is 9K.
_> 
_> Apple needs to do something about prices.  I simply cannot affort a II.

Actually it is the other way around. The other manufacturers are the ones
with over-priced junk. I ran a few tests. I compiled the simple X "hello
world" program, and a few more complex programs. I tried out the source level
debugger, put up some windows, pulled down some menus, dragged the mouse
around. In every category, a $70K Sun 4/260 was at least 4 times SLOWER
than a $1K MacPlus. And this was not only with university software, but
with optimized, supported, commercial products.  The window system
software for that machine, alone, costs more than an entire MacPlus.

In addition to being slow, the workstation software is very buggy, and
it stays buggy.  There is still a bug in "login" that was there when I
was first introduced to Unix in 1975.

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