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From: billms@caen.engin.umich.edu (Bill Mangione-Smith)
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Subject: Re: mac emulation
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Date: 7 Mar 90 16:06:56 GMT
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In article <16555@well.sf.ca.us> oster@well.UUCP (David Phillip Oster) writes:
>I ran a few tests. I compiled the simple X "hello
>world" program, and a few more complex programs. I tried out the source level
>debugger, put up some windows, pulled down some menus, dragged the mouse
>around. In every category, a $70K Sun 4/260 was at least 4 times SLOWER
>than a $1K MacPlus. And this was not only with university software, but
>with optimized, supported, commercial products.  The window system
>software for that machine, alone, costs more than an entire MacPlus.
>

You can't prove anything conclusive with tests like this.  Application
programs for X based unix boxes stink (this includes almost all 
debuggers, which are just applications for developers).  On the other
hand, macos stinks for multiple users, memory protection, networks,
etc...  Its like comparing, well, apples and oranges.  Both need to
work on their weaknesses, and you can bet both are.

Now, if the mac emulation stuff (where this conversation started before
it degenerated into 'my favorite computer metaphore is better than yours')
works, then many of your arguements (but not all) become moot.  How 
about commenting on that?


>In addition to being slow, the workstation software is very buggy, and
>it stays buggy.  There is still a bug in "login" that was there when I
>was first introduced to Unix in 1975.
>

Just how much do you pay for your X?  I get mine for free, as do most
people.

Or is apple paying you to take macplusses from them?
>-- 
>-- David Phillip Oster - Note new address. Old one has gone Bye Bye.
>-- oster@well.sf.ca.us = {backbone}!well!oster

Bill Mangione-Smith
billms@dip.eecs.umich.edu