Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!pt.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!rit!ultb!djh9381 From: djh9381@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.J. Halko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy Subject: Re: Tandy TL/2, memory upgrade? Message-ID: <2431@ultb.isc.rit.edu> Date: 14 Mar 90 01:47:31 GMT References: <2831@uwm.edu> <90071.005749JAP131@psuvm.psu.edu> Reply-To: djh9381@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.J. Halko) Organization: Information Systems and Computing @ RIT, Rochester, New York Lines: 45 > I have a 20 meg IDE drive, can I put a hard card into it also? People say that the power supply isn't big enough to handle it... well folks, I was running my 40 Meg st251 (I think it was a 251 now... been a long time now) with a power supply that delivered 1 amp at 12 V and 1 at 5 V... it heated it up alot, but as long as it was heat-sinked down, there was no problem (I never shut the machine down either... always stayed running...) Now, you have to remember, the largest draw from that hard drive is during startup and during seeks... as long as you don't do 2 simultaneous seeks with both hard drives, you won't be straining anything. A fine example of this is my current hard drive now. I have a Priam 519 running 191.2 Megabytes... the power consumption at startup is 64 Watts (peak startup) and 57 Watts (peak seeking) with an average consumption of 35 Watts and an idle of 29 Watts. In other words, an idle hard drive (just spinning) will draw about 1/2 as much as 1 drive spinning up or seeking... 2 drives in idle pull as much as 1 starting up. If the power supplies were designed right in the TL/2, it should give MORE than required for 1 hard drive spining up/seeking, which means with one drive idle at any one time, you should not be having any problem. Now, since you are probably running MSDos on the TL/2, you should not have a problem with 2 drives seeking simultaneously often. With a slight strain of something like that happening occasionally, you will not do any damage. The power supplies are made with a good margin of "beat-on-ability" since they have no idea how many cards you will be popping in there. With 5 slots (I think it is 5 slots, eh? I forget sometimes...) there should be adequate power... I have seen 2 drives run in several 1000's before. The IDE drive should take even less power since you don't have a separate controller card. Your hard cards are miniscribes (if not, just 3 1/2" hard disks) and you can run those off of batteries... they don't really pull alot... Now my system, I have to worry about simultaneous seeking on drives all the time (running OS9 with 191.2 Meg drives and DMA floppies and other DMA hard drives simultaneously, there are always simultaneous seeks going on.... I have to be a little more careful... but then again, there is another OS9 system running in Rochester that was running a 191.2 Meg, 150 Meg, and 2 80 track drives on a 65 Watt power supply with lots of simultaneous seeks for about 1 year... never any problems... he was running a BBS! You would be suprised how well that equipment is built that you buy at Shack. djh9381@ritvax.bitnet David J. Halko