Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!snorkelwacker!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!inmos.COM!davidb From: davidb@inmos.COM (David Boreham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.transputer Subject: (none) Message-ID: <201.9003131812@brac.inmos.co.uk> Date: 13 Mar 90 18:12:06 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 38 This is a followup to a posting by Friedrich Luecking of Parsytec about compatibility so if you haven't read that you won't understand this. Well anyway, he's absolutely correct. The people who are compatible with the INMOS ``standards'' are being compatible with something which was only supposed to solve a limited subset of the possible uses for transputer subsystems. In fact (speaking personally here), the only hardware standard which INMOS feels really pleased with is TRAMs (and we still haven't got round to documenting that properly yet). All the reset stuff is a bit of a mess and we would be much happier with differential links. Parsytec and some of the others have tried to take things a deal further than INMOS in terms of building things like redundant systems and multiuser clusters. You can't do that stuff with the INMOS standards. I'm not saying that I agree with everything that Parsytec have done. For instance the link connectors are a little over the top for my liking and the fact that every processor can kill its neighbours is a bit dangerous. We (the systems people in INMOS) have always thought that it would be a good idea to get everybody together to agree some hardware standards. However, the fact that this takes time and money and that everyone seemed to be doing reasonably well meant that nothing ever got off the ground. Having said that, the fact that we published the TRAM document before releasing TRAMs and have helped a number of other TRAM vendors iron out incompatabilities in their boards shows commitment to the idea. We definitely will call a conference of some kind about subsystems standards for H1, probably this summer sometime. I hope this adds some balance to the discussion. (Apologies to INMOS newsreaders who will see this article twice, but I'm still a long way from sez's record :) David Boreham, INMOS Limited | mail(uk): davidb@inmos.co.uk or ukc!inmos!davidb Bristol, England | (us): uunet!inmos.com!davidb +44 454 616616 ex 547 | Internet: davidb@inmos.com